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SAE Fatigue Design and Evaluation Committee

Component Test Division

Holiday Inn - Urbana, IL (11-12 October 2000)

 

Wednesday, 11 October - Divisional Progress Meeting

 

Raj Thakkar began the meeting at about 10:30 a.m.  The minutes from the meeting held 4 April 2000 in Cedar Falls, IA were approved.

 

ATV multi-body simulation: The first technical presentation for the division was by Ric Mousseau of the University of Toledo, on progress in multi-body dynamic simulation of the ATV.  The model is now running and just needs some parameter "tweaking."  The rigid-body, hard-constraint model is run by software called "Autosim," which is not the simulator itself, but instead a generator of source code for the simulation.  The model outputs acceleration, velocity, displacement, and force time histories.  The road inputs are displacements on the simulated tires, which are modeled as springs.  Data related to the ATV model can be freely downloaded via www.mime.end.utoledo.edu/people/faculty/rmousseau/Atv/ATV.html.  "Zip" files of the model input, the executable, and related output plotting utilities are available at this site.  Ric is starting to document simulator usage and will add those documents to the noted web site.  Ric went through one simulation example, specifically the ATV going over a trapezoidal bump.  The steps in creating the input file of parameters (time steps, component masses and stiffness, vehicle speed, bump geometry, etc.), in specifying output plotting, in executing the simulation, and in extracting the output were noted.  The loose ends needing to be tied up for the ATV model are as follows: adding shock data and jounce/rebound stop info, adding steering, adding capability for additional force and acceleration outputs, improving the tire model, and interfacing the model with the multi-body program "Carsim-Ed."

Empirical dynamic modeling: The next presentation was by Tom Renner of MTS, on Empirical Dynamic Modeling (EDM) for non-linear suspension components.  EDM is a "black-box" model, a trained neural net that uses random excitation on the component to build a model of the response.  The foremost application of EDM is representation of a component like a bushing or tire in multi-body models (i.e. the kind solved by ADAMS).  The excitation input parameters (amplitudes, frequencies, etc.) should be within the "bounds" of what the part would actually experience.  Examples were presented for a shock absorber, a suspension bushing, and a tire.  In each case, EDM showed well-correlated representation of force vs. displacement in terms of both hysteresis (which the polynomial "white-box" model is not good at capturing) and non-linearity (which the FRF "white-box" model is not good at capturing).  Someone in the audience asked how well EDM would handle "completely different signals," which could probably be taken as meaning either model response to excitation significantly different from the content used to build the model, or the ability to simulate a part that is significantly different than the one on which the model is based.  Tom responded that this issue needed further investigation.  MTS' Andrew Barber has led the development of the EDM method.  Further details about EDM can be found in several publications, including SAE paper 2000-01-1625.

Cold expansion of holes: Jude Restis from Fatigue Technology, Inc. gave a presentation called "Fatigue Life Enhancement Using Cold Expansion."  (cold expansion abbreviated Cx in the remainder of these notes)  Cx has primarily aerospace applications, but has had, and can have other applications as well, such as train rail end bolt holes, bridge fastener retro-fits, and biomedical structures (like nails in femur reinforcements).  The typical mandrel process for Cx of a hole introduces a zone of compressive residual stress ~ one hole diameter wide; this compressive residual stress is a key to improved fatigue performance.  S-N studies show Cx performance not far below that of parent material without a hole; this is especially true if a fastener is inserted in the hole with a fair amount of interference fit.  Derivative processes include rivet-less nut plates and high-interference bushing installation.

Press-fit problem: The division's last presentation was by Ric Leist from Cessna, regarding press-fit fatigue of lugs (the aircraft kind, not what's holding the wheel rims on your car).  Simulation of the press-fit joints is a nasty contact mechanics problem, addressing the fact that loading of a given direction relaxes the interference fit on one "side" of the hole.  Models of this problem have involved lots of empirical data for different lug configurations.  The models have worked well for some lug materials (steel and titanium), but no so well for others (aluminum).  The presentation was effectively a plea for assistance for additional data or ideas that could help such problem-solving.

 

Thursday 12 October - Divisional Planning Session

ATV: Anyone with data or progress to report should give their information to Raj Thakkar.  He will follow up with those persons regarding next steps.  The remaining discussion about the ATV focused on control arm testing.  Should the testing be conducted on an arm by itself or on a corner assembly?  The web site wheel load data may be analyzed to determine test time histories with spindle loads.  Because the road load data still exist in the "spinning wheel" form, the histories would still need to be resolved into forces.  The web site information has a spreadsheet including instructions for making such calculations.  It may be possible to use old SAE cantilever fixtures at Ford or Deere to aid testing.  We may consider running uniaxial tests, which would create an opportunity to choose from more facilities for testing.  Regardless of the test plan we choose, WE STILL NEED PARTS.  The money and parts that the U. of Toledo had have been used up.

Variability and uncertainty studies: Charlie Sieck will find a well-populated material data set and make it available to any committee members interested in making variability and uncertainty calculations "round-robin" style.  Chin-Chan Chu may also contribute to this effort the multiaxial data used for publication AE-14.  Charlie will make a presentation on this and related matters at the next meeting.  Anyone interested in helping with studies on variability and uncertainty (perhaps forming a task group?) is encourage to contact Charlie or Paul Lubinski.

If anyone is interested in volunteering wherever the project tasks require help or if there are any questions, please contact Paul Lubinski or Raj Thakkar as soon as possible.

Respectfully submitted,

Paul Lubinski

Chairman, Component Testing Division

 

 

SAE Fatigue Design and Evaluation Committee

Fatigue Life Prediction Division

Unconfirmed Minutes

Holiday Inn - Urbana, IL (11-12 October 2000)

 

Wednesday, 11 October - Divisional Progress Meeting

 

April 2000 minutes were approved.

 C.C. Chu mentioned that for whatever reasons, people seem to be unusually enthusiastic about presenting their work results this time.  As a result, she had scheduled 3 talks in this 1 hr. session.  In order to not steal too much time from later sessions, only 1 burning question will be allowed after each talk.  Further discussion about the subject was encouraged to carry on during breaks.  Furthermore, some work update about the Waterloo web site would be presented by A. Conle in the planning session.

 

"A Stress Based Fatigue Prediction Concept and Its Application to

Vehicle Components," by Helmut Dannbauer, FEMFAT.

 Mr. Dannbauer presented a macroscopic phenomena based fatigue approach taken by FEMFAT.  Unlike the common approach most of the FD&E members take, where we select a damage parameter such as SWT's, calculate the SWT-value for a damage event based on the stress analysis result, and use a UNIQUE SWT versus life curve to assess fatigue damage for the event, FEMFAT uses the stress amplitude as the damage parameter, and let the S-N curve of the material to vary with loading conditions.  The conditions influencing the S-N curve, based on their experimental data as well as experience, include stress gradient, surface roughness, mean stress, etc.  They do use the Neuber correction method to obtain the local stress.  Mr. Dannbauer then showed several successful examples using this approach.

 

"Thermal Fatigue of Automotive Components," by V. Ogarevic, Ncode.

 

Dr. Ogarevic gave a concise overview of the complex nature of thermal fatigue problems of automotive components.  He pointed out that it is well known that both the rate sensitivity of stress-strain behavior and the S-N curve vary with temperature.  The temperature dependence can be relatively easy to determine.  The interaction between thermal and mechanical stresses however is much more difficult to test and model.

 "Crack Energy Density as A Fatigue Life Parameter for Rubber Subjected to Multiaxial Conditions," by W.V. Mars, Cooper Tire.

 Mr. Mars reported that for rubbers fatigue failure prediction based on his new 'crack energy density' (CED) parameter seems to better correlate with experimental results in particular the selection of failure plane.  The crack energy density is the inner product of the traction and the strain increment on a potential failure plane.  He also succeeded in using a phase-dependent (CED)-life curve to predict fatigue life for various amount of multiaxiality.

 Thursday 12 October - Divisional Planning Session

 Chu mentioned that some overload test data had been posted by J. Bonnen on site http://fde.uwaterloo.ca.  R. Chernenkoff will pose his mean stress tests on the site soon.  Those who had promised to test their fatigue method, Deere, Cat, Ford should go see whether the information posted is enough.  We expect to report the prediction results next meeting.  The FEMFAT team indicates that they are eager to participate as well.

 Al Conle gave a short tour for his new web tool page, also on the "fde.uwaterloo.ca"  page.  One can use the tool to feed in rainflow counting results and predict fatigue life by choosing one of the 3 materials of which Al has supplied digitized strain-life curve.  We did have a roomful of blank faces staring back at us.  It is assumed that people need time to go try it out and digest the concept a bit.

 Chu then closed the session by outlining the next meeting's likely agenda -- life prediction capability comparison for problems involving large mean stresses; more tools on the waterloo web site; and possible talks on subjects that may interest both the ground vehicle and the aerospace industry.

 Respectfully submitted,

C.C. Chu

Chairman, Fatigue Life Prediction Division

 

  

SAE Fatigue Design and Evaluation Committee Meeting

Road Load Data Division

Unconfirmed Minutes

Holiday Inn - Urbana, IL (October 11-12, 2000)

 

Wednesday, October 11 - Divisional Progress Meeting

 

1.       Ray Thompson moderated the meeting.

 2.       Minutes from previous meeting were approved.

 3.       Mark Earley presented a review of the load measurement project on the ATV.  Several test runs have been made, many over discrete objects for model correlation purposes.  The data, along with photos and video of the test, have been placed on the web server.

 4.       Chakrapani Vallurupalli gave a technical presentation entitled "Functional Virtual Prototyping in Fatigue, Design and Evaluation Process."

 5.       Ray Thompson lead a discussion about the web site www.fatigue.org. This is the site maintained by Christoph Leser.  The committee member's general consensus is that the above site complements the official SAE web site.  The fatigue.org site is easier to get to (no password required) and easier to post information.  Any updates or suggestions about the www.fatigue.org web site should be directed to christoph.leser(at)mts.com.

 

Thursday, October 12 - Divisional Planning Meeting

 Ray Thompson chaired the meeting.

 Load data collected on the ATV was discussed.  Mark Earley had collected additional data while operating over discrete objects and test tracks.  The time history data has been placed on the web site in dac file format.  There are 1886 data files using about 1 GB of disk space.  Mark will do some data reduction (noise spike replacement, drift removal, etc.).  He will also do the conversion of the wheel forces and moments from rotating coordinates to non-rotating coordinates.  Run descriptions, channel descriptions, vehicle configuration details, photos and video have been posted on the web site.  An Excel spread sheet documents the details.  All the information can be

found at www.fatigue.org/data.

 There was some discussion about the process of data reduction of the ATV data.  Charlie Sieck and other individuals would like to do this procedure as well.  This would include statistical analysis of multi-pass data.  The raw data will be sent to them upon request to Mark Earley.  It is desired that anyone participating in this exercise present their results at the next meeting.

 Ric Mousseau has plans to use some of the discrete bump data to correlate his dynamic model.  Description of the test track profile and all discrete objects is included in the Excel spread sheet posted on the web.

 ASCII data file format was not discussed since the individuals working on this were not present.

 The meeting was adjourned.

 Respectfully submitted,

Ray Thompson

Vice-Chairman, Component Testing Division

 

  

SAE Fatigue Design and Evaluation Committee Meeting

Structural Analysis Division

Unconfirmed Minutes

Holiday Inn - Urbana, IL (October 11-12, 2000)

 

Wednesday, October 11 - Divisional Progress Meeting

 

Dan Lingenfelser substituted for Zheng Xian Bai and Mary Wickham as chairman.  Two technical presentations were provided.  Jeff Sundermeyer presented work he was doing on "Ground-Interface Load Inference" and Mark Barkley presented his work on Spotweld Fatigue Under Multiaxial Loading Conditions.  (overheads attached)

 

Structural Analysis Division Planning Session Oct. 12,2000

 Dan Lingenfelser substituted for Zheng Xian Bai and Mary Wickham as chairman of the planning session, John Hakala kept notes.. 

Attending: John Hakala, Dan Lingenfelser, Dietmar Peishammer, Jin Qian, Ed Lu, Ge Wang, Nishit Dey, Jerry Green, Ric Mousseau, Hong-Yan Zhang, Michelle Wegsheid, Charlie Sieck, and Darrell Socie.

 Dan showed a slide summarizing the Structural Analysis Division planning session from  the April meeting.  Dan Klann, Todd Vest and ZhengXian Bai were to exercise the ATV model that was on the website. The website model was built two years ago and gives warnings.  The model evidently still needs some cleanup and expertise applied.  Students exercising the model would end up with similar problems.

The question asked was "Is it a waste of time to run the model without the refinements?"

John Hakala will send Dan Klann an e-mail to determine if he has done anything to clean up the model.

Jin Qian and Hong -Yan Zhang from John Deere T.C.  will also contact Dan Klann and work on refining the ATV model.

MultiBody Dynamics - Ric Mousseau from the University of Toledo has completed the basic model without bushings. Engine and frame are an integral model. Ric needs to update the tire model, and set up to back calculate the loads.  Darrell Socie mentioned there is quite a bit of variation from ATV1 to ATV2, with different parts on similar vehicles. We need to compare to the John Deere measured data.  Ric  will work with Darrell's post doctorate student.  Ric's objective is to sanction the dataset with representative C.G. locations, mass and moment of inertia, determine how simple can you model the vehicle, and still obtain reasonable results. John Hakala will work on a sensitivity study with Ric's model.

Ge Wang  mentioned an ADAMS model and will compare to Gary Mauritzon's results, and determine shortcomings.

Charlie Sieck mentioned the possibility of running a ProMechanica model similar to Ric's MBD model and generate some feedback about modifications.

We need to demonstrate the ability to predict loads.  Does the engine  mass and stiffness make a difference? Does the luggage rack make a difference?